Dang--- All you guys came up with the best ideas ever, Thanks...Can you add any further refinements or ideas. ROUGH PRELIMINARY FIRST DRAFT OF L.A. S.F. TRIP START IN LA: 0. Dinner or Lunch at a nice BH restaurant (Spago, Mr. Chows, Dan Tana’s, The Ivy) 1. Venice Beach and Pier 2. Lunch on the SM Pier or Castaways ? 3. Malibu Getty 4. Paradise Cove 5. Ventura--Boat or Helicopter to Anacapa Island Hopper or N. Channel Islands 5a. Mandalay Resort or Stay in Santa Barbara 6. Santa Barbara Mission 7.SLO/Pismo Beach--- Avila Beach Clam dinner restaurant ? 8. Solvang---2 hours 9. Chumash Indian Casino— 10. Wineries--San Ynez, Los Olivios, Santa Rita Hill, Paso Robles. 11. Hearst Mansion 12. Big Sur---photos---Camria, CA visit 13. Carmel and 17 mile drive + Mission 14. Lunch at Pebble Beach Golf Club 15. Monterey Bay—and Aquarium 16. Drive Golden Gate bridge/Lunch in Sausalito 17. Hotel California 18. Bus and/or Boat Tour of SF 19 China Town 20. SF Cable Car at Powell + Market for Hyde St. Line (stand on outside of cable car) to Buena Vista Cafe and Fisherman's Warf/Pier 39. 21. Wine Country, wine tasting and Olive groves 22. Dinner at Thomas Keller's French Laundry or other like Mustard’s Grill FINISH IN S.F., FLY HOME…… Thanks Muppet, you are the best that goes in the plan !!!!! Thanks Cope, Great ideas. I didn't know there was a China Town in Oakland....Interesting....